tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post4134202479934085490..comments2023-10-30T09:18:59.264-04:00Comments on Sons of the Tundra: Dynasty Rankings: TESTING - RUNNING BACK RANKINGSChris Wesselinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04514914375873012828noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post-18913847263575787962008-07-26T15:48:00.000-04:002008-07-26T15:48:00.000-04:00I don't know how many of them had Turner's talent ...I don't know how many of them had Turner's talent because I don't think we know just how talented Turner is yet. He's put up interesting numbers situational with the "breather effect." He was also, what, a 6th round draft pick? Even if Turner is more talented than I believe, I don't think you can overestimate the suckitude of Atlanta's offensive line.<BR/><BR/>And he doesn't seem like a better bet than Chris Johnson to me. Maybe we just have different styles. I'm going after the guy who has a chance to be special, not a guy who has a chance to be a Top 15-20 producer.Chris Wesselinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04514914375873012828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post-49792677632617131472008-07-26T15:40:00.000-04:002008-07-26T15:40:00.000-04:00RE RE TurnerOf those backups how many of them had ...RE RE Turner<BR/><BR/>Of those backups how many of them had Turner's talent? Turner would have been a starter(or at least had a much larger role) if he wouldn't have been behind a HOF RB.<BR/><BR/>What is considered long-term success? I think if he can put up RB2 numbers for 3-4 years ala Thomas Jones(who is less talented) then that should be considered a success. I'm not saying Turner will ever be a top-10 guy, just that he seems like a better bet than Chris Johnson. You may be right about Lewis(I always seem to think he's older than he really is.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post-45921638689475186762008-07-26T15:36:00.000-04:002008-07-26T15:36:00.000-04:00I could see someone thinking that, but I just don'...I could see someone thinking that, but I just don't see it that way. I've heard from several rabid Pats fans who claim the club's brass simply doesn't trust Maroney as a full-time back. They think he's susceptible to injuries and dances too much before he hits the hole. <BR/><BR/>Is he ultra-talented? Sure. Is he consistent? Nah. Has he ever carried a full load, even going back to college? Nope. Marion Barber split with him. Does he get work in the passing game? Nada. Four receptions last season.<BR/><BR/>I just don't believe he'll be used consistently . . . and fantasy football mandates consistency in order to win.Chris Wesselinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04514914375873012828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post-35820293530969804262008-07-26T15:29:00.000-04:002008-07-26T15:29:00.000-04:00RE RE MaroneyI think with Jordan signed that means...RE RE Maroney<BR/><BR/>I think with Jordan signed that means Morris is probably as good as gone, which really doesn't change Maroney's situation much other than now his backup is a little bit more talented.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post-25613896410731236512008-07-26T15:26:00.000-04:002008-07-26T15:26:00.000-04:00Re: Pierre Thomas.I think I've been consistently h...Re: Pierre Thomas.<BR/><BR/>I think I've been consistently higher on him all offseason than anybody else doing dynasty rankings or analysis. I love his situation and all-around skills while I don't believe for a second that Deuce McAllister will return to anything resembling his old self . . . if he does, in fact, return.<BR/><BR/>I think my ranking accurately reflects that. I could rank him higher, but we just don't know how talent he is . . . nor do we know if the Saints will attempt to bring in another RB -- which the local papers have been speculating about for quite some time. <BR/><BR/>I love me some Ray Rice. McGahee better stay healthy and productive if he knows what's good for him.<BR/><BR/>You're probably right about Felix Jones though. I like Thomas much better than him as a fantasy back.Chris Wesselinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04514914375873012828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post-49071086995982750862008-07-26T15:22:00.000-04:002008-07-26T15:22:00.000-04:00Re: Michael Turner.He's going to be running behind...Re: Michael Turner.<BR/><BR/>He's going to be running behind a god-awful offensive line in a poor offense overall. Furthermore, he doesn't catch the ball. Running backs who don't help out with receiving numbers MUST get into the end zone to make up for it. Will the Falcons put him in the red zone enough? <BR/><BR/>Not to be overlooked is that data on backup RBs going from situational roles to starting status. That data bodes very poorly for Turner's future.<BR/><BR/>To quote Pro Football Prospectus:<BR/><BR/>"So far, there is little indication that short bursts of production in situational roles are harbingers of big things to come."<BR/><BR/>"Charlie Garner is the only one who went on to have sustained success as a starter."<BR/><BR/>"There are no predictors you can really hang your hat on. The few indicators we can find are fairly weak and suggest that Michael Turner is not likely to become a long-term success as a starter."<BR/><BR/>Jamal Lewis, on the hand, is a full-time back in a highly explosive offense with a two-year window of very startable production.Chris Wesselinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04514914375873012828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post-23541196670191028072008-07-26T15:13:00.000-04:002008-07-26T15:13:00.000-04:00Re: Maroney. I just typed the following report on...Re: Maroney. I just typed the following report on Rotoworld:<BR/><BR/>"NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Patriots have signed RB LaMont Jordan, a day after he was released by the Raiders.<BR/>Jordan also considered New Orleans, but the Pats swooped in on another cheap, serviceable vet. This may say as much about the club's confidence in Sammy Morris' health as it does about Laurence Maroney. However, it's been clear for some time that Maroney's usage patterns were simply not reliable enough for fantasy leaguers, and Jordan's signing adds further concern. Maroney will remain the starter, but Jordan could play a significant enough role to hamper Maroney's consistency and overall production."<BR/><BR/>It's been obvious to me that the Pats just haven't trusted Maroney to stay healthy and cease dancing behind the line of scrimmage. Their constant kicking the tires routines with free agent RBs was also worrisome. I'll acknowledge that this may say more about Sammy Morris than Maroney, but I just don't trust the Pats to use Maroney consistently enough to be a fantasy advantage.Chris Wesselinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04514914375873012828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post-54648954847429941282008-07-26T13:46:00.000-04:002008-07-26T13:46:00.000-04:00Why so low on Michael Turner? The guy is finally g...Why so low on Michael Turner? The guy is finally getting his shot and should be close to a full time RB and he's behind guys like Chris Johnson(small workload) and Jamal Lewis(older guy?)<BR/><BR/>Two other guys I have a little higher are Maroney and Pierre Thomas.<BR/><BR/>In Thomas' case I just think Deuce is finished and Reggie is going to be scaled back even more with Shockey on board. I see 200 touches in an explosive offense there for the taking and I believe Thomas will take them. He seems more likely to be valuable to me than rookies like Ray Rice and especially Felix Jones who likely won't see anywhere near as many touches this year or in the near future(barring injuries.)<BR/><BR/>I'm high on Maroney, I think the guy we saw in the playoffs is the guy we are going to get this year. He wasn't healthy to start last season which was the main reason Morris got so much work, and teams are going to try and make New England beat them on the ground this year. Combine that with the league's easiest schedule and the Patriots being the league's most explosive offense and Maroney seems way to low. How is Ronnie Brown ahead of him? He's coming off of a torn ACL on a lesser team in a new offense with a better RB fighting for carries. McGahee is the same thing only without the ACL. I just think people are really sleeping on Maroney this year, perhaps its backlash from him being overrated going into last season, but the talent is there and the chance is there. I see him as a high-upside RB2 with possible low-end RB1 potential. I could see him being the Patriots' version of Addai minus the catches, but with probably more big plays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post-26068939583297260962008-07-18T21:20:00.000-04:002008-07-18T21:20:00.000-04:00hi,I liked the old format where you had the value ...hi,<BR/><BR/>I liked the old format where you had the value grade at the front of each player- 97, 95, 87, etc.<BR/>I found it a great help.<BR/><BR/>The regular 1, 2, 3, numbering makes the rankind just like any other run-of-the-mill ranking. I hope you switch back. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post-43916821566627924712008-07-18T07:32:00.000-04:002008-07-18T07:32:00.000-04:00Your reference to a "worriesome BMI" sent me Googl...Your reference to a "worriesome BMI" sent me Googleing and I found an article by Chase Stuart on Pro-Football Reference. It's an interesting article. I do think that most backs that are in need of some weight work to put it on once they get to the NFL. For example, Clinton Portis was listed at 192 coming out of Miami (according to Sporting News Draft Guide 2002), but has bulked up to 205. If McFadden puts on even 10 lbs his BMI will become 28.8 which puts him in the range of modern backs like Terrell Davis, Ricky Watters, Clinton Portis, and Adrian Peterson.<BR/><BR/>Still, more than BMI, off field issues, et al., the biggest reason I'm concerned about McFadden is the organization that drafted him. Al Davis is nuts and they have zero stability out there. That's a poison culture that can drain the will from someone like McFadden. <BR/><BR/>That said, if I had the #1 pick...I'd still take him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post-58330188847649859652008-07-17T14:01:00.000-04:002008-07-17T14:01:00.000-04:00Done.I was waiting until I could a more firm grip ...Done.<BR/><BR/>I was waiting until I could a more firm grip on his strengths and weaknesses. I'm still equivocating, but I'm just not sure where I see his career going. . . .Chris Wesselinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04514914375873012828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3775717737795541691.post-79657439164470458232008-07-17T09:36:00.000-04:002008-07-17T09:36:00.000-04:00Why no blurb for Darren McFadden? We demand a "Wes...Why no blurb for Darren McFadden? We demand a "Wess Blurb" for Darren!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com